Right for the New York Times in Rolling Stone he's written books on Marilyn Manson jenna jameson a motley crew. His latest the game details his journey into the secret world of pickup artists. He knows how to do it. And he's here tonight to try to seduce me. Please say hello to Neil Strauss hello Neil now did you just do something magical to Jessica when you touch her or was I. I'm taking out your taking now. Oh yeah sure you are your take your not that taken though. Nobody's that taken. I just may. That's that's the best way you're right. No why is it good. You know what that's the whole lesson of it is guys are always begging and pleading and being too available the best way to get someone to pretend like you don't want it right. Yeah is that right. Cuz no one ever likes the challenge men or women you want to have to work for it otherwise it has no value. I see so you think like I usually. I think you're absolutely disgusting. If you meet somebody you know what man sometimes better than a generic compliment really so you are able. I read an article which you like kind of like picked up do you. You've got Britney Spears his phone number didn't you true true yes how did you manage that. I was doing this interview with her and was all those yes no. I don't care answers that she's kind of known for a little bit and that gear just flipped to my head. I decided you know what the game has worked on everyone. I've ever met. Well you whoever they are so. I just decided started running it on her and it's not hitting on her. It's showing you're interesting. It's you know being playful teasing and also like uh just being more interesting than one else out there and so. I started telling her about her body language more interesting than Kevin Federline. That would be quite a challenge so you you read her. Would you say you read her bra. That your eye movements her body language say what it means about her one of these guys in this book this guy named Ross Jeffries who Tom Cruise's characters based on a Magnolia says one of the rules has demonstrated authority over her world so I started telling her about herself and break them down and then I did a little bit of mind reading a little bit of magic and then she said can he show off the tape deck and she started just for the gushing unloading at the end of the interview she said I'd like to change phone numbers.

I'm not gonna realize that kind of worked now you know. She's at home right now. Maybe nursing the babies. I don't oh that did not happen. I did not know that happened. I read her mind. She ran. She looked in the mirror. And she's like oh my god. I can't believe I just did that. Oh real yeah it was the funniest thing I've ever seen well. And so how'd you get mixed up with these guys um I was I I did some awesome things like I was a. I did a book on motley crew and but I would sit around and watch them having all the fun. I was the guy I didn't have a date in high school and I figured for college I decided to go to Vassar College because a girls school. I figured my odds were better there. Yeah did you dress like a woman like in bosom buddy. Tom Hanks and still nothing. No girlfriend oh they really so. I figured all was not lost. I'm gonna be this rock writer go on wrote Motley Crue had that backstage pass around my neck were anything could happen in this world right right and time. I leave is the only person I kissed. Oh you kissed Tommy Leo tongue. No but after that. I figured you know what some guys have it. Some guys don't uh-huh then. I discovered these guys and kind of got taken under their wing. Why'd you just. Tommy Lee by the way. Okay so no no action in the whole motley crowd or you wrote it. Would go out jenna jameson right now. Adult film star right nothing there. Nothing nothing there and so you get in with these guys that pick up our day and they teach you what are like if you could give us like just a few like the broad strokes of how this works what are they. God so there's actually could you try it on.

Jessica would you mind. I would try it. I'm a talk show. I don't learn talk show game. Oh they're a different game. Here's the thing there's a night. There's this idea that you know someone's beautiful you got a hit on them or something but in. LA everyone's beautiful that one beautiful comes to LA to try and make it right so if you're beautiful so light you got lucky in the gene pool right so if I was to ask you to name three things about yourself that would make me want to get to know you better and none of them can be about your looks or what you do. What would they be um I'm loyal right reliable and hard-working that's awesome. Maybe can happen. No let's say the whole step. The whole thing is guys. I was trying to sell themselves to women. They're always trying to say brag about themselves and think they do for a living and instead you kind of gotta flip the script make someone with absolutely no interest of you start selling himself to you. That's like one of the pieces. Wow thanks for playing well. Wow was it. You feel like that was effective. I felt like that's just what intelligent people that I don't know that talk to me. Do they. Don't care so much about the physical and they do actually look for more than that and they tell you smart ones yeah that do go further than hi. Yeah you're crazy yeah you know yeah you have to look for more than that because at the end of the day it doesn't last forever like when I 20 had a cute top. That was like something. I think we wanted to wear it. Yeah so she assumed. I was gay. Does this work for game. You know some of the stuff. I have a friend who reviewed it for a magazine and he said half the stuff at work. There's a side you have negs the playful backhanded insults. Oh those those he said be very effective and it's also basic human nature the idea that the one guy a guy named history taught me something called caster in theory. How does he go after the women say hi my name is mystery.

He does and that worked for him. Well that was sounds like one of Michael Jackson's friends the things. They all have to make nicknames because they're all online posting their entire sex lives and their fears and insecurities online. So you make up these names because you want to meet a girl and and have her google you and find out you've been up to all this stuff right no there. So this is all like internet savvy game play because we're dislike revenge. I think the future of dating right and these are the guys all guys and they're frustrated they go to the internet and then they learn this and then it's like you'll see a club when it's not looking at jenna jameson. Then they can go in these chat now. I'm doing real life and you'll see on sunset any night you can go down and you'll see these guys. They're all doing this stuff called peacocking. They're all standing out. They're all using the same routines and it's like the guy's decocking peacocking. They have their own language by the way and I got a call from a guy and I'll say style was my name. No say hey. I was at in a two set and I was trying to to neg the target but I got eyes from the obstacle should idh Peter DL lead as soon when she was in SH b11. And that'll mean something. Yeah but it means you guys are nerds. It's go true. These are the guys who like playing. Warcraft a month ago and now they're playing Warcraft. But or whatever the game is but in the club's with real people well and so and so but like peacocking is this like showing off. Yeah peacocking is like the way people kind of girls. Does this work on like what kind of girls are. Britney Spears Britney Spears in an interview but what kind of chicks are these guys pulling. Yeah very much thank you. What kind of girl it works. I went kind of all over the world when I was kind of in disguise as this and did it every country and the same stuff. We're doing the same social dynamics here should I give you the basic broad strokes.

Yeah real quick. Give us super broad strokes all right so instead of walking right to the person you interested in hitting on her right away you approach the whole group you win over the group of people. You almost push her away a little bit if she's hit on a lot. There's no shelter you say. Oh my god is she always like that. How do you hang out with God. You kind of pushing away. You're showing your friends that you're not hitting on her and you went over her friends and look you'll slowly win her over. That's the basic idea. But they have literally have this mapped out to a tee guys will drop out of school. They'll drop out of college. I don't recommend it. Wow I'll do that till they're in this. That's how obsessive. Wow yeah well. It's good a lot of guys spend time we're like learning the play back. Blackjack or something right. It seems a lot more fun than blackjack. What do you want the money for. Yeah and why isn't your picture on there because see if I was you you should put your picture on the book because then guys will know. Oh well you know. Neal got the girls you know device here's the self-esteem down the drain man no. I mean but for you know a chubby guy like me. I know all right well at this look at this bald guy he can get me with this beautiful head of hair. What part guy you know it actually works the big cheesy guy that thank you right. Oh that frightens women scares them off so I can come in at least under the radar a little bit all right well very good. Well this is sounds like an interesting book. It's called the game if you want to pick that up Neil Strauss.